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Re: SEEING THE FACE OF GOD |
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pearl wrote:
> "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message news:Bn%sk.42424$hx.23632@pd7urf3no...
>> pearl wrote:
>>> "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message news:KRKsk.116439$nD.25522@pd7urf1no...
>>>> pearl wrote:
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>>>>> You've taken an innocent life.
>>>> So do you, vile accuser, so do you. And you know it.
>>> Were that so, it would be with remorse, not joy, vile accuser.
>> That's unfortunate, because GOD gives its bounty to
>> all, not to engender sorrow, but joy.
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> Stop engendering sorrow then?!
More vile self-righteousness that you feed on like a
vampire.
>>>>> More than just flesh and blood,
>>>>> a sentient being, - whom you wholly disregard and disrespect,
>>>> Not at all. I acknowledge and honour their sacrifice,
>>> "sacrifice", ditch? Hah! You clearly couldn't care less.
>> I ask that you not speak for me.
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> Your actions speak louder and truer than any words.
Thank you
>
>>>> unlike you who hides behind cowardly and transparent
>>>> demands for "credible evidence". See no evil..
>>> Make outrageous claims; get asked for credible evidence.
>> Credible claims.
>
> Then support them with credible evidence. Rodents, lizards.
There is very little direct record of the numbers or
the suffering of poisoned birds, drowned mice,
shredded lizards. No-one of good faith denies it. Your
addiction to self-righteousness demands that you do.
> Acknowledge that feeding humans directly would free up for
> wildlife vast areas, - currently grazed and cropped for feed.
Certainly, there would be more wildlife if there were
less livestock.
> Also acknowledge that we can live in harmony with Nature,
> without pesticides and herbicides and chemical fertilizers.
Possibly, it's also possible that we might treat the
animals we farm with respect, even reverence. The fact
is that neither of those happens to be the reality wrt
most of what we consume.
>>> What happened to that paragraph, ditch? Evil coward.
>> There are always more paragraphs, they will never have
>> any meaning until you come to terms with your own
>> demons instead of projecting them.
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> Evasive projective babble.
Of course you see it that way.
>>>>> violently imposing your will so as to give yourself some 'joy'.
>>>> As do you with every single act that serves your
>>>> interests beyond bare survival.
>>> That's what you're doing, and indeed advocate, not me.
>> Its what we are all doing. There are no people here
>> living a life of bare subsistence.
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> You have no idea what others here are doing.
I have an excellent idea. I know for example that YOU
aren't doing it.
> All other things being equal, you demand killing.
So do you. The difference is that you hide from it, I
admit it.
>
>>>> Et tu, vile accuser, addict to the drug of
>>>> self-righteousness.
>>> Righteousness, ditch, something that's totally alien to you.
>>>
>>> 'righteousness
>>> ..
>>> n
>>> Definition: goodness
>>> Antonyms: sinfulness, wickedness
>>> ..
>>> It is an attribute that implies that a person's actions are justified,
>>> and can have the connotation that the person has been "judged"
>>> or "reckoned" as leading a life that is pleasing to God.
>>> Righteousness is also used as an attribute for God.
>>> ..'
>>> http://www.answers.com/righteousness&r=67
>> True righteousness is about BEING and DOING according
>> to ones conscience,
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> Then anything goes - any atrocity can be termed "righteous",
> since "I was told / it felt / seemed alright at the time" to do it.
If its an atrocity then you already know that it's not
alright. One thing is for sure, it is not YOUR job to
define it for me.
>
>> not denying one's sins in order to
>> lord it over others, that is sanctimony.
>
> But that's exactly what *you* are doing.
Nonsense, I'm not the one calling people "demon".
> Go back and address
> the cites you evasively snipped
Get this dearie, once and for all, you don't define
what is right for me, and you don't get to dictate to
me that I put in my newsgroups posts. The control over
others that you seek so desperately will never come,
and even if it did you would find it to be hollow.
> in denial of your sins, and retract
> your lies and accusations of lying, then admit that your taste for
> animal fat requires innocent blood be shed, and that it's wrong,
> that it involves sanctimoniously lording it over other creatures.
That nice cotton shirt on your back came at the cost
of untold death and suffering of tiny creatures in
cotton fields, just to cite one example. Closing your
eyes and screaming for absolute proof of something so
obvious is just cowardly.
>
>>>>> And you consider your opinion on spiritual matters of value?
>>>> Only for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
>>> We can all see what you're about, ditch. You're a fraud.
>> The peace you seek is within, it will not come through
>> attempts to diminish others.
>
> Keep repeating that to yourself, maybe it'll finally get through..
I am at peace, I am trying to help you see how futile
it is to lash out at others like you do. To realize
this you need to look at yourself honestly. I don't
hold out much hope that will happen.
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*Message 1* |
Dutch |
Wed, 27 Aug 2008, 9:11 pm |
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